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Heard this on Hannity this afternoon:
The government is not without blame. You've got the politicians that are in the pockets of the environmental whack jobs, the unions, insurance companies, & anybody else with a special interest & money. Thanks to their regulations (influenced by these groups) that they imposed on the automakers, they are forced to develop technology in order to meet the mandates. They get beat up for improving gas mileage, because the government won't allow new exploration, new drilling or new refineries. I'm all for the improvements made in cars & trucks recently, but I believe that we would have gotten them even without government mandates & the cost impact to them would not have been as great as it is when they get stuffed forced on them. `
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Mullaly's comments today to Congress... (total text below)
FORD CEO ALAN MULALLY TESTIFIES ON CAPITOL HILL NOTE TO EDITOR: Today, Ford President and CEO Alan Mulally testified before the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs. Mr. Mulally's complete written testimony is available at: http://media.ford.com. The following statement was prepared for delivery: WASHINGTON, D.C., Dec. 4 – "Mr. Chairman, Senator Shelby, and members of the Committee. Since the last hearing, I have thought a great deal about the concerns you expressed. I want you to know I heard your message loud and clear. On Tuesday, you received Ford's detailed and comprehensive business plan, and I appreciate the opportunity to return here today to share Ford’s vision and progress in becoming a profitable, growing company. You were clear that our business model needs to change. I agree. And that's exactly why I came to Ford two years ago to join Bill Ford in implementing his vision to transform our company and build a greener future using advanced technology. Let me share with you what we have done to change from how we used to do business to how we do business now. It used to be that we had too many brands. Now we have a laser focus on our most important brand: the Ford blue oval. In the last two years, we sold Aston Martin, Jaguar and Land Rover – and reduced our investment in Mazda. And this week, we announced we are considering a sale of Volvo. It used to be that our approach to our customers was: If you build it, they will come. We produced more vehicles than our customers wanted and then slashed prices, hurting the residual values of those vehicles and hurting our customers. Now we are aggressively matching production to meet the true customer demand. It used to be that we focused heavily on trucks and SUVs. Now we are shifting to a balanced product portfolio, with even more focus on small cars and the advanced technologies that will drive higher fuel economy in all of our vehicles. It used to be that our labor costs made us uncompetitive. Now we have a ground-breaking agreement with the UAW to reduce labor costs, and we appreciate the UAW's continued willingness to help close the competitive gap. It used to be that we had too many suppliers and dealers. Now we're putting in place the right structure to maximize the efficiency and the profitability for all of our partners. It used to be that we operated regionally – European cars for Europe. Asian cars for Asia. American cars for the U.S. market. Now we are leveraging our global assets, innovation, technology, and scale to deliver world class products for every market. It used to be that our goal was simply to compete. Now we are absolutely committed to exceeding our customers' expectations for quality, fuel-efficiency, safety and affordability. This is the Ford story. We are more balanced. We are more efficient. We are more global. And we are focused. In short, we are on the right path to becoming a profitable, growing company. We have moved our business model in a completely new direction, in line with the most successful companies – and competitors - around the world. And as a result of our progress, we made a profit in the first quarter of this year. Unfortunately, we all are facing a severe economic downturn that has slowed our momentum. Despite this downturn, Ford does not anticipate a near-term liquidity crisis. In fact, we expect our automobile business to be profitable in 2011. But we do support a government bridge loan because it is critically important to the U.S. auto industry. Specifically, Ford requests access to $9 billion in bridge financing – something we hope we will not need to use. Instead, as we continue to drive change in our company, this line of credit will serve as a critical safeguard, if events require it. And if we did need to access this loan, we would use the money to continue our aggressive transformation and restructuring. Ford is an American company and an American icon. We are woven into the fabric of every community that relies on our cars and trucks and the jobs our company supports. The entire Ford team – from employees to shareholders, suppliers to dealers – is absolutely committed to implementing our new business model and becoming a lean, profitable company that builds the best cars and trucks on the road for our customers. There is a lot more work to do, but we are passionate about the future of Ford. In fact, we invite you to visit us in Dearborn to kick the tires, look under the hood and talk to our employees. We hope you will join us and see for yourself the progress we are making to develop the vehicles of the future."
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Ford has done alot in the past several years to try and turn a profit without hurting the company. I don't think GM or Chrysler can say the same. At least Ford isn't asking for a loan, just a line of credit in the event something bad happens down the road that can not be prevented on their own. I like the direction that Ford is going and I hope they continue that same path in years to come. I just hope congress wakes up see what Ford is doing and only hope that GM and Chrysler can follow their lead.
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I say let the oil companies bail out the automakers. With the record profits they have recorded this past year they could more than afford to lend the car makers the money. After all it is the cars that use thier oil products.
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Full text of written testimony Mullaly gave Congress today:
Written Testimony of Alan R. Mulally, President and Chief Executive Officer, Ford Motor Company Testimony of Alan R. Mulally President and Chief Executive Officer, Ford Motor Company Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs December 4, 2008 On Tuesday, Ford Motor Company submitted to your Committee our comprehensive business plan, which details the company’s path to profitability through an acceleration of our aggressive restructuring actions and the introduction of more high-quality, safe and fuel-efficient vehicles – including a broader range of hybrid-electric vehicles and the introduction of advanced plug-in hybrids and full electric vehicles. In addition to our plan, we are also here today to request support for the industry. In the near-term, Ford does not require access to a government bridge loan. However, we request a credit line of $9 billion as a critical backstop or safeguard against worsening conditions as we drive transformational change in our company. One Plan: Beginning earlier this decade, we recognized the challenges the domestic auto industry faced and began implementing a disciplined global business plan to completely transform Ford, to improve our efficiency, cut costs and champion innovation. Our plan builds on the success we have seen in the past two years by accelerating the development of our new products that customers want and value. Our plan is anchored by four key priorities:
Despite the serious global economic downturn, Ford does not anticipate a liquidity crisis in 2009 – barring a bankruptcy by one of our domestic competitors or a more severe economic downturn that would further cripple automotive sales and create additional cash challenges. In particular, the collapse of one or both of our domestic competitors would threaten Ford because we have 80 percent overlap in supplier networks and nearly 25 percent of Ford's top dealers also own GM and Chrysler franchises. The impact of a bankruptcy also reaches beyond Ford and the U.S. auto industry. It would cause further stress to our domestic banking industry and private retirement systems. Goldman Sachs estimates the impact at up to $1 trillion. We also believe effective restructuring involves a broader dialogue with all our stakeholders. President-elect Obama has indicated an interest in such a discussion. There are a number of complicated questions that will need to be considered, for example:
Ford has a comprehensive transformation plan that will ensure our future viability – as evidenced by our profitability in the first quarter of 2008. While we clearly still have much more to do, I am more convinced than ever that we have the right plan that will create a viable Ford going forward and position us for profitable growth. Thank you. Mullaly was very clear today: -we have adequate liquidity ifor 2009 but would like access to $9B line-of-credit in the absence of available traditional channels -it would hurt us irrepairably if either GM or Chrysler went under because it would sink supplier-base which is 80% in-common. -we've made great strides and are already on the right plan -- we just need to execute. Ford also announced a corporate czar of global peformance products today ...good to see that.
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Wow, tough audience here
![]() I think they just need to know what business assumptions they can plan on -- i.e. yes/no/how-much -- you just can't run a business without knowing that and Ford would be a fool to not participate given how interlocked the supplier base is. Ford is only asking for what they would have obtained from the banking industry if it wasn't broken right now. Also, if GM/Chrys get direct assistance it would put Ford at a disadvantage: it's all-three or nothing, imo. The three also agreed that, to the extent they accept gov-loan money, they'd agree to grant a Congressional oversight committee (as I predicted Congress would realize they need) the same powers of a bankruptsy court to reorganize their businesses if they fail to perform -- all three agreed to that. How would this be any different than bailing out a bank with the agreement that money would get allocated to traditional asset-collateralized loans to the big three. As I see it the only diference is that the bank would get a markup on the money -- a gift they are not worthy of, imo. So why not have the government just bypass the banks and provide the assistance directly but under the same terms/penalties as in a functioning banking system. I also liked the pressure that is being put on the UAW leadership ...they have some $2B in their coffers over $1B of which is specifically for the next strike! Congress asked their chief a$$hole if he's be willing to kick that money (just the $1B part) to reduce labor costs ...dodging and weaving BS words and he would not be pinned down (it's the memebers' money -- fair enough) but it seemed clear that being able to cripple their members employers is more important than their members having employers. I tell ya, I really do respect the notion that, as a general rule, taxpayer money should never be used for this, but this isn't the airlines where the product is consumed in a hours ...these are durable goods with warranties (without which few will buy) and I don't see, on balance, there is any sensible choice except to help. Clearly just one opinion but I don't see that the breakage and it's ripple-thru can be justified on principle alone in this specific case. The automakers drive 4% of the US GDP which is 4x the cost of worst-case cost (more than the $34B) assistance and assuming the money isn't paid back (which I predict will *not* occur for Ford). I see it more as a direct injection of liquidity availability without traditional banking overhead. I wish there was a realistic way to pick and choose who survives on this one. Chrysler is seemingly toast anyway. GM is the problem, imo. They're almost as bad off as Chrysler but are the 800lb gorilla. Without their spending, Ford's supply chain is toast. I think the oversight committee with bankruptsy-court powers is key. Because I think it will be GM that dips into the well first and, if they don't hit their targets, will be getting paired-down, voluntarily or not. They need to sell Saturn (whcih has become a joke), and prolly dump Pontiac at a minimum too. If they don't they'll liely default and the court or Congressional committee will do it for them ...and probably with a far duller knife. It's a tough call either way ...will be interesting to see how the
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We've lost whole industries on other items. It's not good, but it happens. Electronics. Shoes. I am terrified of the consequences of failure in the short term, but I still think leaving them to the free market is the best long-term approach. The union guy has been saying "this is not a bailout, it's a LOAN". Well guess what....a loan IS a bailout when no one except the government will give it to you.
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What's a black & white TV?
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I think it's a black enclosure with a white around the screen. They used to have some funky Panasonic ones along time ago when thier slogan was "Just slightly ahead of our time".
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you guys remind me of a Too Young joke
Too Young A guy's walking down the street and sees Dirty Johny smoking a cigarette. He says, "Kid, you're too young to smoke." Johny looks up and doesn't say anything. The guy says, "How old are you?" Johny says, "Six." The guy says, "Six? When did you start smoking?" Johny says, "Right after the first time I got laid." The guy says, "Right after the first time you got laid? When was that?" Johny says, "I don't remember. I was drunk." |
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