C&R Racing Dual Pass/Dual Puller Fan Group Buy

[Dactyl]

Its taken a while because there is so much more that goes into the heat exchanger. Fans, Wiring Harness, Hose, Grommets, bolts, etc.

To keep costs down each and every individual will be quoted ground shipping based on your location.

There are going to be three options:

Option 1: Complete Kit including Heat Exchanger, Two Fans and Two wiring harnesses, bolts, grommets etc.: Cost $ 575.00 plus shipping

Option 2: Complete Kit including Heat Exchanger, Two Fans, bolts, grommets etc. (The do it yourself wiring kit scenario) Cost $ 515.00 plus shipping.

Option 3: Complete Heat Exchanger NO FANS Cost $ 455.00 plus shipping.
(for $120 more you get the complete kit, doesn't seem to make a lot of sense when you consider the amount of labor to go back and install the fans and wiring at a later date.

Here's the kicker guys, if I can get 30 or more buyers on this I believe I can get C&R to drop the price a little more. Same scenario as when we did the Radiator group buy. Who the acutal purchase will run through is still being determined but I wanted to get this out there ASAP and get a barometer in interest. Should be ready for Christmas if we get the commitments going MUY PRONTO!!!

As before it will be a 50/50 deal. 50% deposit. 50% on shipping.

Please send me a PM if you are IN for one and what option. Also post here what your option selection would be. FYI. The wiring kit is TOP of the LINE and I'm an electrical contractor and I am not easily impressed.

Let the beatings begin.

Dactyl

[Joker]

Will credit cards be able to be used for the purchase?

I'm definately interested just short on funds right now.

Is option #1 a plug and play type situation in regards to the wiring?

Thanks for putting this together!

[Dactyl]

Originally Posted by Joker

Will credit cards be able to be used for the purchase?

I'm definately interested just short on funds right now.

Is option #1 a plug and play type situation in regards to the wiring?

Thanks for putting this together!

It is damn near plug and play. Other than a few minor connections that will be provided for in the complete instructions with pictures, should be a very straight forward install.

Should be installing both the Heat Exchanger and Radiator in JAS427's 725 Super Snake in two weeks before we head to Daytona for the 24 Hour Rolex Course.

[Dactyl]

Currently up to 4 for Option 1.

[Dactyl]

7 Commitments thus far.

[Dactyl]

Originally Posted by Dactyl

7 Commitments thus far.

8 commitments now.

[Darkside]

Option #1 please. Another great mod. Vann you are the man!

[TOMMY GUN]

I have the Afco on my car.

One of my concerns w/ this is is it made more for a 1/4 mile car?

I road course my car and so in doing so have plenty (I believe) air flow through the core. It seems the fnas would only block flow at speed where I need it most.

For a street car or 1/4 mile car it would be different. The fans would do the work when the car is stopped or moving slow (between lights, etc.)

Just not sure I can justify the extra cost , effort and voltage drain on a car used for my purpose.

Does sound like a reasonable deal though.

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[Dactyl]

Originally Posted by TOMMY GUN

I have the Afco on my car.

One of my concerns w/ this is is it made more for a 1/4 mile car?

I road course my car and so in doing so have plenty (I believe) air flow through the core. It seems the fnas would only block flow at speed where I need it most.

For a street car or 1/4 mile car it would be different. The fans would do the work when the car is stopped or moving slow (between lights, etc.)

Just not sure I can justify the extra cost , effort and voltage drain on a car used for my purpose.

Does sound like a reasonable deal though.

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TG

The unit was designed built and tested for my uses and other uses. I too take it to the track. Sebring, Homestead, Palm Beach International, Daytona. The Heat Exchanger is built for OUR purposes. The Road Course.

However, it works awesome for the drag racer as well because the unit keeps the IAT2's low at WOT which works for both the drag racer and the road racer. The drag racer or road racer can cool the car down dramatically in between sessions by getting the water pump and fans going and pulling the heat out of the car.

If you look at my technical thread about the Heat Exchanger during the R&D phase I post data from actual data log sessions that show the effectiveness and differences between this heat exchanger versus a Steeda and an AFCO.

Bottom line. As a road racer and what many of my close track friends like to call me, "the last of the late brakers" I beat on the car hard. Probably too hard. The car has more sustainable power on the track than ever before.

Check out the original thread that has all of the numbers and data.

Also, think of it this way. As we track our cars on the road course we are constantly on and off the throttle, high speed, low speed and braking. The fans pull 1100 CFM ALL THE TIME, whether you are going 30 MPH or 100 MPH. What does 1100 CFM and speed mean and matter? Let me put it this way, you will not over power the fans until you eclipse 150 MPH in the car which is the approximate air flow speed through the heat exchanger that the fans would then become free spinning. How often do you take the car past 150 MPH on the road course and how long are you at that speed sustained?

High speed air flow through the HE makes all of the sense in the world, thus the reason for the dual sucker fans, its like having 150 MPH at the HE all of the time.

As for power, its a non-issue. Each fan draws 6.6 AMPS at Start Up and just at 6 AMPS sustained. That's a total draw of 12 AMPS. That's less than running around the track with your Radio on!

[TOMMY GUN]

What's wrong w/ having the radio on around the track?








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[leestoystang]

Guys,
This to me is a no brainer.. This is an awesome product.. We had recently datalogged my car and saw the IAT #'s shoot straight up on a 5 minute run on a very cool night in Florida with 3 WOT blasts and I have the AFCO H/E.. With the dual sucker fans pulling the heat out it's just what Dactyl stated it's like having 150mph hitting the H/E all the time. If you look at the posts that Dactyl did alittle while back and saw that his roadcoarse datalogs where running incredibly low IAT's and all that was while he was doing so for about 20 minutes with outside temps at 90*'s ... Simply amazing.. For me I'm more into the 1/4 mile runs and with that said imagine cruising up in the staging lanes after a run turning your dual suckers on while the guy next to you is heatsoaked... With all that being said put me in for Option #1... Thanks

[Dactyl]

I like to listen to classical when I hit the track.

Classical - Long Tube Headers, No Cats and FRPP SGT Mufflers. Music to my ears.

[TOMMY GUN]

Originally Posted by leestoystang

Guys,
This to me is a no brainer.. This is an awesome product.. We had recently datalogged my car and saw the IAT #'s shoot straight up on a 5 minute run on a very cool night in Florida with 3 WOT blasts and I have the AFCO H/E.. With the dual sucker fans pulling the heat out it's just what Dactyl stated it's like having 150mph hitting the H/E all the time. If you look at the posts that Dactyl did alittle while back and saw that his roadcoarse datalogs where running incredibly low IAT's and all that was while he was doing so for about 20 minutes with outside temps at 90*'s ... Simply amazing.. For me I'm more into the 1/4 mile runs and with that said imagine cruising up in the staging lanes after a run turning your dual suckers on while the guy next to you is heatsoaked... With all that being said put me in for Option #1... Thanks

I don't understand half the numbers I see. Someone I trust would have to look it over and explain to me how it could be that much different when the car is constantly moving.

Where is 68Fastback?

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[Dactyl]

Think of it this way. Take a hair blow dryer or a shop vac in reverse. Air pressure. Put it up to the front of your car and see how much air actually flows through the back of the condenser or the radiator. You will find that the flow is dramatically compromised. What's behind your radiator? A big efficient Puller Fan. Why, to pull more air through to cool the fluid down in the radiator and keep the car cool.

All I did with this is employ the same puller/cooling fan philosophy to the heat exchanger and it works.

[Dactyl]

Officially have 12 commitments to buy the heat exchanger.

A bunch of others awaiting approval from the boss.

[Dactyl]

just eclipsed 20 buyers. Wow.

[TOMMY GUN]

Originally Posted by Dactyl

just eclipsed 20 buyers. Wow.

What are we doing to confirm one?



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[gr8snkbite]

Originally Posted by TOMMY GUN

What are we doing to confirm one?



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i refer you to post #1...duh...

[TOMMY GUN]

Originally Posted by gr8snkbite

i refer you to post #1...duh...

I never go back and read threads farther than a post or two.


.We Know this about you.....Birdman was here...

[TOMMY GUN]

Originally Posted by TOMMY GUN

I never go back and read threads farther than a post or two.


.We Know this about you.....Birdman was here...

What is this "Birdman was here"?


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