New Plenum by L&M Airflow Systems

[65SC]

any updates on the L&M TB?

[Blackshelby]

any updates on the L&M TB?




Real close.
Manufacturing is for sure a little more changeling then I thought.
I needed the tooling that cuts them tweaked a couple times to get them exactly how I want them, but the product is real close.
I should have one this week if not next week I can give my OK with to put into production.
I will let all know.

[BEEKAY GT500]

Originally Posted by Blackshelby

Did many repeat runs.
Not only was dyno testing done, flow bench testing was done on the TB's and Elbow.

Just a note I actually hate quoting HP numbers( dynos, weather, engine setups and tunes will vary. Numbers quoted are what I observed in testing) That being said the elbow will increase power .
The TB if tested against/compared to the others will make the most power

Tested all TB's on 4 different cars 3 tvs setups and one whipple 3.4 setup all showed same results with the TB's
Tested elbow and TB's on 3 TVS setups with repeatable results.

The Elbows should be ready to ship end of June time frame. ( 100 available)
The TB's I had a few pre productions ones made already but we needed to tweak the tooling some to get them the way I want. I will have another few this week. Once I am satisfied with them. (exactly the way I want the TB's) They will be ready to be in full production a couple weeks later.(Iam still hoping for the end of June timeframe )( first batch will be 50-100)
I have been tossing the idea around about selling with electronics and without.

i know your doing your best to get this out but once i see some tvs sheets posted i'll be making my decision. i need to spend some money.

[chimazo]

Also interested in the elbow (already have CJ TB on my pullied TVS)...

[Vette Killer]

Originally Posted by Blackshelby

We are getting real close, will definitely let you know

thanks
Jim

Hi Jim,

Any update on these? I know you guys were shooting to have ready for Orfstock.

Thanks,

Rob

[Blackshelby]

Originally Posted by Vette Killer

Hi Jim,

Any update on these? I know you guys were shooting to have ready for Orfstock.

Thanks,

Rob

I did have a TB at Orf's (I did show it to all)I just need to check the piece and it should be ready to go into production.(this will take a week or two to verfiy)
The plenum mold needed to be redone that should be coming back to me in the next week or so too.
Both are real close as I was hoping to have both completed at this time.

[Vette Killer]

Originally Posted by Blackshelby

I did have a TB at Orf's (I did show it to all)I just need to check the piece and it should be ready to go into production.(this will take a week or two to verfiy)
The plenum mold needed to be redone that should be coming back to me in the next week or so too.
Both are real close as I was hoping to have both completed at this time.

Thanks for the update,

Please shoot me a PM when you are ready to start offering them.

Rob

[Birdman]

L & M TB Latest News ! Exclusive here on StangMafia!

The new production TB was tested today for idle and drivability and passed with flying colors.....and no tune changes from the TVS with a stock TB tune were required at all for idle and driveability .

(NOTE: If you currently have a monoblade on your car and wish to install the L&M your tune would have to go back to the TVS/stock TB settings.)

There are a couple more performance test's yet to be done then a full production run can begin. Probably in two weeks because of the July 4ty holiday.


Besides the stock billet aluminum there will be quite a few finish options offered as well consisting of :

(1) A fully Polished piece

(2) Anodized in various colors of your choice
(almost any LOL)

(3) Trying to work out an option that could include electronics as well.

Will post more as things unfold.

Birdman

[Stew]

Please add this newb to the list for these fine pieces of automotive artistry. (when they are available of course)

[68fastback]

Originally Posted by Stew

Please add this newb to the list for these fine pieces of automotive artistry. (when they are available of course)

Welcome to the Family, Stew!!

-Dan

[68fastback]

L & M TB Latest News ! Exclusive here on StangMafia!

The new production TB was tested today for idle and drivability and passed with flying colors.....and no tune changes from the TVS with a stock TB tune were required at all for idle and driveability .

(NOTE: If you currently have a monoblade on your car and wish to install the L&M your tune would have to go back to the TVS/stock TB settings.)

There are a couple more performance test's yet to be done then a full production run can begin. Probably in two weeks because of the July 4ty holiday.


Besides the stock billet aluminum there will be quite a few finish options offered as well consisting of :

(1) A fully Polished piece

(2) Anodized in various colors of your choice
(almost any LOL)

(3) Trying to work out an option that could include electronics as well.

Will post more as things unfold.

Birdman

George, since some folks interested in the L&M TB will be coming from the mono am I correct in assuming that while no tune changes would be needed when coming from any TB that respects Ford's TB/servo engineering calibration (e.g. stocker, CJ, BBK), changes would be required when coming from the mono or other brass-geared TB because those pieces already required non-standard 'compensation' to begin with ...that now would have to be 'undone.' Is that correct?

Since the news of a super-flowing no-tune TB will likely spread like wild-fire I thought folks jumping into this thread from other sites might not realize that -- if my assumption (above) is correct. If not, feel free to delete this post since my intent is to eliminate potential confusion.

[Orf]

Originally Posted by 68fastback

George, since some folks interested in the L&M TB will be coming from the mono am I correct in assuming that while no tune changes would be needed when coming from any TB that respects Ford's TB/servo engineering calibration (e.g. stocker, CJ, BBK), changes would be required when coming from the mono or other brass-geared TB because those pieces already required non-standard 'compensation' to begin with ...that now would have to be 'undone.' Is that correct?

Since the news of a super-flowing no-tune TB will likely spread like wild-fire I thought folks jumping into this thread from other sites might not realize that -- if my assumption (above) is correct. If not, feel free to delete this post since my intent is to eliminate potential confusion.

I'd like to know the answer to this, as I might be in the market.

[Birdman]

Originally Posted by 68fastback

George, since some folks interested in the L&M TB will be coming from the mono am I correct in assuming that while no tune changes would be needed when coming from any TB that respects Ford's TB/servo engineering calibration (e.g. stocker, CJ, BBK), changes would be required when coming from the mono or other brass-geared TB because those pieces already required non-standard 'compensation' to begin with ...that now would have to be 'undone.' Is that correct?

Since the news of a super-flowing no-tune TB will likely spread like wild-fire I thought folks jumping into this thread from other sites might not realize that -- if my assumption (above) is correct. If not, feel free to delete this post since my intent is to eliminate potential confusion.

You are correct Dan I will try to clarify that in my post above. Thanks ...Done!

[gr8snkbite]

now that that is cleared up..another wrinkle...how about diff MAF's? my post mono/header tune(s) was/were with JLT & FRPP CAI's. Now i have the CJ MAF....care to indulge..

[Birdman]

Originally Posted by gr8snkbite

now that that is cleared up..another wrinkle...how about diff MAF's? my post mono/header tune(s) was/were with JLT & FRPP CAI's. Now i have the CJ MAF....care to indulge..

That should have no affect on the TB as your tune should already have the proper map in it for your particular Mass air meter . ( in your case the CJ meter)

[gr8snkbite]

Originally Posted by Birdman

That should have no affect on the TB as your tune should already have the proper map in it for your particular Mass air meter . ( in your case the CJ meter)

ok..my prev tune was JL's with BBK and JLT...we'll see how it works all in due time

[Johnny Lupara]

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[Super Snake]

Would still like to see some pictures posted

[hydro]

I am sorry but we cannot post pictures at this time."BUT" you will probably have one to look at soon as there is a possibility the first 100 TB's may have been sold.Production will start tomorrow.hydro

[Joker]

Originally Posted by hydro

I am sorry but we cannot post pictures at this time."BUT" you will probably have one to look at soon as there is a possibility the first 100 TB's may have sold.Production will start tomorrow.hydro

WTF! Did I miss something on being able to buy one? Or is a store buying them as in our friendly store here?

Also, I know you said a few weeks back that the Plenum was still about 6 weeks out. Is that still holding true as far as you know?

Just trying to stay in the loop with these items as they are at the top of my wish list right now.